PT Boat PT-658 Deck Tour and Interior Tour shows details and closeups of all weapons and equipment on board. Be sure to check website at www.savetheptboatinc.com PT-658 was named to the National Register of Historic Places on 04 September 2012. The boat was restored by a group of 12 WW2 PT Boat veterans. The tour starts from Bow and works back to see entire boat with detail views of each weapon and piece of equipment. Views of 20mm Oerlikon Cannon, 37mm Oldsmobile Cannon, Mk50 Spin Stabilized 5 Inch Rocket Launcher Mounts, Browning M2 twin 50 cal machineguns, Mk17 turret, Mk 13 Torpedo, Mk6 Depth Charge, 40mm Bofors Cannon, Raytheon SO Radar Mast, signal generator, waveguide and antenna dome, Helm Equipment, Compass, Throttle and EOT, Searchlight, Reflector Gunsight, Collins TCS-12 Radios, Radar PPI Scope, Chartroom, Navigators Chartboard, Galley, Stove, Sink, Refrigerator, Toaster, Drop Leaf crews mess table, Crews Bunks, Pinup Girls, Crews Dress Uniforms, Kapok Life Jackets, Crews Quarters, Wardroom, Officers Head, Foul Weather Jacket, Radar Power Supply, Officers Dress Uniform, Officers Pith Helmets, Captains Desk, Ammo Locker, Small arms gun rack, M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, 1903 Springfield Rifle, BAR, Thompson Sub-machinegun, Wardroom Fan, Fluxgate Gyro compass Amplifiyer and Power Inverter, Ammo passing hatch, Running Engine exhausting through bronze mufflers. Please help support the further restoration and preservation of this historic treasure by visiting the above website and donating. "Save the PT Boat" is a 501c3 non profit organization and appreciates all the support we can get! Check back soon for further detailed videos about starting up the engines and other operational details.
If you ever get a chance to visit Battleship Cove at Fall River Massachusetts, they have 2 PT boats, an Elco, the PT-617 and a Higgins, the PT-796 in addition to other notable WWII vessels, including the U.S.S. MASSACHUSSETTES and the Balao class submarine USS LIONFISH.
My late uncle by marriage was a really soft spoken guy. He was a radio operator on a PT in the Pacific. He never wanted to talk about it much. I guess he just wanted to do his time and come home. During one furlough he met my aunt on a train from NY. Thanks for the glimpse into his past world.
am sure to build this it could be achived on a international bases.i no boats more then most things. i was brought up on boats my father was a senior boats officer ,who restored meny and retired at 72. it was hard to get a replacment and a koren vetern naval officer. he new boats and ship born air craft in side and out and every fastner used in detail every component ftom the keel up and every tging on air craft too. so i now wish to build a pt boat ftom scratch. oh well they will have modern marine engines and safety items etc but still close to the original ones of course. no we must not for get from the builders to the crews in all that they sacrifced so that we could be born. we owe then are lifes and we must never for get that. proude of them all in all the allied forces that came together to fight for are very existance.we owe them much. respect more then 100%. so yes i want to build one for lots of good reasons. chip in and i will build it. ok i like air craft carriers too but we could'nt raise the funs to build one nor a battle ship. so the next best thing a pt boat. maybe every state and all allied countries should build at least one in each city. that will be a sight to see. built out of respect and sacrifice as they did for us all. we owe them that at the very least. help me build one and then see where this may lead. a better communite spirit a better world of peace. it will have a positive effect all round because we all come together to do this honourable thing. it will mean a lot to meny. the past the presant and the future. it will show that we care and that we respect . it maybe easy to do in some ways but its the meaning behind it that counts. and what a thing to do. very effective in the best possible way.. they make a sacrific for us now we can do the same to honour them. it is are duty as human beings. it will bring the world closer together as it should be. thank you for reading . just help me make this happen and it will come about.
great vid now tell me how to build one and i will build on. yes me must and those that help will gain great insight into not just how to build and maimtain them but become experts with re gained losted skills. i and meny others would love to own one and to live on. my new home on the high seas. cheesing rope causes bust and ypu can slip and harm your self and basicly only for show
Yep these queer fucks go off sailing in this boat. Gives them the opportunity to pretend they were in the military (which come on look at then hear them, they weren't) and suck each other's dicks just a way for these fun boys to spend their weekends.
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THANK YOU for uploading...there must be very very few left. My dad was in Port Morseby, and after the Jap surrender they took out the local MTB and sank them...very sad. PT boat would have been my choice if i would have had one. But Australia didnt use them. Actually we need a modern equivalent more than ever! Anyway..once again Thank you very much.
Germany had the S-boot, which was like 120ft? While the PT boat is 80ft...And the S-Boots were never used in open water like the pt boats in the pacific...They stayed in the baltics, and in the shallow sea between the Netherlands, and England
Great tour. I was a torpedoman in the nuclear submarine service back in the 70s. We still had the old 21 foot long World War II manufactured Mk.14 torpedoes, along with newer wire guided and acoustic weapons. The older torpedoes were retained well into the Cold War because they were "war-time proven" weapons. The Mk.13s on your PT boat have internals similar to our Mk.14s -- combustion flask, main drive gears, and other features like an external starting lever.
I heard from some of the older guys that I served with that PTs were like howling demons fueled by avgas and powered by three 12-cylinder aircraft engines. Hard to imagine that the Navy had over a thousand of them -- and scrapped almost all that survived at the end of the war. Thanks again for a great tour.
Richard Najjar The PT Boat engines, Packard M2500 were NOT aircraft engines !!! They were purpose designed by Packard for the PT Boats. They did have aircraft influence, all aluminum, overhead cam, 4 valves per cylinder and supercharged, 1200 to 1800 HP depending on the model of the engine !!!
WAIT a minute1 Did that guy say that the Swedish Oerlikon ( pronounced "war-like-un") WAS A 20 MM.? It was an 18 mm. when I was an Aviation Ordinance man. It was also an anti aircraft rifle, but a little longer.
+T Allen Yes they made about 50,000 20mm Oerlikons during WW2, they could be mounted in a dual or single mount. The ones in aircraft wing guns are belt fed and have a larger powder casing, but the projectile is still 20mm in bore size.
T Allen hey dumb ass !!! These PACKARD M2500 MARINE engines have NOTHING to do with the RR Merlin !!!! DUUUHHH!!!!! Aside from the fact Packard did build BOTH !!! The M2500 PACKARDS were being delivered to the US navy 3 years before RR Showed up on their begging mission !!!! Get the facts straight BEFORE opening your shit hole and spewing shit all over !!! Merlins were never used in a US Navy PT Boat !!!! DUUUHH!!!!
Jerry Gilmartin RR Merlins are only 1650 Cu I displacement PACKARD M2500 are.........yes 2500 Cu in displacement !!! 50% larger !!! and they had NOTHING to do with the RR Merlin engine !!! !These Packards were being delivered to th US Navy 3 years before RR showed up at Packard on their begging mission !!!!
+T Allen A quick search will show 2 different engine room tour videos. And Yes we do indeed have 3 Running Packard V12 Gas Engines. NOT Rolls Royce. Common mistake, Packard made licensed copies of Merlin Aircraft engines but the engines installed on PT Boats were bigger than Merlins (1830 cu inch Merlin vs 2500 cu inch displacement on Packard Marine PT Boat engines.
Mr. Gilmartin, Thanks for the great tour. It was fascinating to watch and very difficult
to hear very clearly over the drone of the Packard engines. Would you consider re-recording so that folks that are interested in hearing every word don't have to struggle
to listen. I put the audio thru my stereo speakers and got a room full of engine noise,
the Packard(s) actually cover you up repeatedly. Great boat, interesting subject, although not too bright an idea trying to record a duet with V-12 engines.
Very interesting, very frustrating. BTW, if you re-record, don't have people talking
louder than narrator while up on deck. Hello?!
M.A. Rosen, M.D.
+drmarosen Sorry Doc I was just learning how to make videos at the time this was recorded. I have made a few others that you can hear them better. I was trying to get those background people to be quiet but the world evidently does not revolve around me as I mistakenly assumed.
Dutchy That M2500 Packard was 50 percent larger than a packard built 1650 Merlin !!!And the Packard 2500 was in no way even remotely related to the merlin. Packard was building the M2500, which was purpose built for the PT boats, over 3 years before RR showed up at Packard for Packard to build the merlin, which they did built BOTH engines at the same time !!! 14,000+ 2500's and 55,523 V1650 merlins The M2500 was the marine version of the A2500 aircraft engine. a lot of aero influence !!!
Seeing the uniforms were cool. And at 12:12 that these boats were made of wood is quite evident. I wonder if that gap in the wood is original. I suspect any kind of ventilation next to a bunk was welcome.
really awesome work! thank you so much for making this and posting it here! Well done! I hope you will post more videos of this vessel soon perhaps of it under way and doing maneuvers, perhaps like we see in McHales navy? ( the TV show) perhaps of the guns being test fired with blanks of course. perhaps of the motors, in the silent running set up. and interviews of the different men who served onPTs and have them describe the job on board and what it was like on board and at sea and under fire. these would be excellent additions!
Again, thanks so much!
Thanks flywelder for watching! Yes those are great ideas. We need to get a "chase" boat to shot underway videos. If you go to our website www.savetheptboatinc.com under News tab we have an underway video taken from an aerial drone. The other part about shooting the guns will be more difficult since all of our weapons have been demilitarized and cannot be fired. Maybe we can work on getting them able to simulate firing. Thanks again for your interest.
Great video. The only thing lacking is not seeing the engine room although I'm sure it was quite noisy when they were running. Excellent attention to detail and I hope the boats lasts forever for future generations to see.
Hi Jim, Thanks for watching and commenting. I did make a couple of videos that show the inside of the engine room. Just search for PT658 Engine Room Tour and "PT658 engine startup" and "Post start engine checks" on YouTube
In 1963 there was an empty PT hull, no deck, I used to play on/in as ah kid.
long gone now. My Dad, in 1956, used to run the Fastest Fishing Boat In Florida, an old PT with the original engines. On occasion he would run Ernest Hemmingway to Bimini from Miami Beach.
It sure is strange how the Navy cannot make up its mind on mission capabilities. Now that they have a mission to combat global piracy they developed the LCS which is the same tonnage of a World War II Destroyer Escort, I venture that the PT Boat concept should have been maintained even through the Cold War.
I watched the video on how the PTs came into being, very informative, and so was your walkthrough, I've modeled a 1/72 scale Elco with two twin 20mm for and aft, I got the 20s from the linberg Airforce Rescue Boat model, which I thought was a higgins, but I could be wrong, well thanks again for an informative video and response to my question.
Hi Hunter, and Thanks for watching! Yep, this is a 78 foot Higgins PT Boat, built in New Orleans in 1945. The Higgins have 2 Dual 50 cal gun tubs adjacent and the 80 ft Elco has them offset. Another easily spotted difference is the Higgins have 3 muffler castings on each side while the Elcos have al 6 mufflers on the transom.
+Jerry Gilmartin Great thanks! Yea my Landlord was a gun captain on the USS St. Paul during ww2 and he volunteers down there at Battleship Cove, I am glad you got to see the exhibit. I will take you up on that offer.
Thanks Gary! Yes I have been to Fall River and met with Don Shannon the Curator of the PT Boats. I spent about 8 hours examining every square in inside and out of both boats with Don and taking lots of photos. We try to work together as much as possible, in fact our Radar Mast is on loan from Don. You should come out to Oregon and I will give you a tour. Jerry
16:05 "No smoking on a PT boat".
Probably because they were made of wood and powered by gasoline, but you know the rules aboard these boats were loose even between the officers and the crew. You know there were lots of cigarettes consumed aboard anyway LOL. The TV show "McHale's Navy" was probably actually a pretty accurate representation of how loose the rules were when not actually engaged in combat.
Hi Scott, Yes, I am certain you are correct. Especially when you think these boats were crewed by mostly a bunch of 18-23 year olds! The skipper would be the oldest, usually around 24 years old, so not a lot of strict adherence to the rules. One thing I just read was they had to stop the practice of cleaning the bilges with 100 octane gas after a boat exploded in port and killed 2 sailors!
Thanks so much for this. Did you ever see one of the old Vosper boats that sat in Fall River MA? I saw it there back in 1980, I think. When I was there 20 years later, it was gone, and a fellow at the museum told me that some punks set it on fire - just for kicks.
Hi Todd, Thanks for the comment. Yes the Battleship Cove Museum in Fall River has 2 PT Boats on display currently, PT796 (a Higgins 78 footer), and PT623 (an Elco 80 footer). I have visited there last year and they are in great shape, both are kept inside out of the weather, and out of the water on blocks for preservation.You should go see them if you can. Jerry
Sorry for long delay in reply. The PT625 class of 78 foot Higgins PT Boat originally had 4 aluminum 50 gallon tanks for drinking water. 2 below deck in forward crew compartment, 1 in officers wardroom and 1 in aft crew head. The engine cooling freshwater has a 5 gallon fresh water expansion tank attached to each engine. I hope that answers your question. Jerry
Thanks a bunch. Im a modeler and this was a very close and personal view a this baby. very clear details that help my work, like the raft.certain details you dont get from schematics, black and white pictures or work from other modelers. pound for pound, the best equiped ship in the whole navy. armed to the teeth. these are like pitbulls, just mean and bread to do one thing. destroy the enemy. Thanks for the effort.
+Jerry Gilmartin Fascinating. So they didn't use hydrogen peroxide? It's been used in submarine torpedoes, and has been the cause of more than a few accidents. Concentrated peroxide decomposes on the slightest provocation (or contamination) producing steam and oxygen. Nasty stuff.
Hi Apollo, thanks for watching! Yes, some of the air was reduced in pressure and used for combustion inside the torch. Alcohol mixed with air for initial flame, then after a short delay water is automatically sprayed in to flash into steam. Starting was done with air actuated piston to detonate primer caps to start a mixture of powdered magnesium and cellulose and paraffin burning.
Thanks for the tour!
Did the radioman have any kind of comsec gear like codebooks or a cipher machine?
Inverters are solid state, so they came after WW2. What you called an "inverter" on the radar looked more like a "dynamotor", a small motor-generator set. Same function, but performed electromechanically instead of electronically. Before my time but I recognize it from surplus gear. After dynamotors and before inverters came vibrator supplies, more like an inverter than a dynamotor but with an oscillating electromechanical relay doing what power transistors do now.
+Jerry Gilmartin Interesting because I've never seen "inverter" used for anything but solid state units. You learn something every day.
You confirmed my suspicion that it's a motor generator (the size and shape gives it away); maybe "Dynamotor" was a trademark of some other company? You said it makes AC, so maybe "dynamotor" is generic but applies only to units producing DC. (A "dynamo" is a DC generator.) I've seen units that look just like yours labeled as "dynamotors" that make a few hundred volts DC to supply the plates in a WW2-era military surplus radio. They're powered from 12, 24 or 28V DC, whatever is available.
It's really not that important, but if you get the chance to take a closeup of the label without spending more than 5 or 10 seconds on it, that would be nice. I've always been interested in energy conversion equipment. Thanks!
+Jerry Gilmartin Yes the Inverter is labeled the "Power Inverter" and not Dynamotor, however what is does is to convert 24vdc into ac power for use in the flux gate gyrocompass system. It is a small motor-generator set. I looked directly at the original label plate, so maybe you are thinking of something else?
The radioman did not have a cipher machine that I have ever heard of. I think they may have had codebooks but I have no details about them. I will try to find out and will let you know. Both are good questions As for Inverter, I think the box is labeled as much, I will post more details later.
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