Some video I took of PT 658, a fully restored and operational World War Two PT Boat in September 2011.
For WW2 buffs, this is a true treasure.
For more information, please visit http://www.savetheptboatinc.com/
Edit note: I have edited this to remove the claim of "the only" operational PT Boat as another is ready for launching. Read about PT 305 at http://www.history.com/news/kickstarter-campaign-begins-to-return-pt-305-to-water
That must be a monster cam driving that thing. Its great to see a Mchales Navy Boat actually working (I'm 60YO and Mchale and Bingington still excite my memories). Sorry to those who do not go back as many years as me watching TV shows in my young days LOL.
they had loads of bhp back then when they was used and very powerful at the time as well for a pt boat. hyper cars using around 5000bhp now so when i look back they war ships has equivlernt to ahyper boast back then or areo engined boat whe they was made still cool to this day
Yes us liberals are dying to know if guard rails would have kept another of your hated liberals JFk's boat from being cut in half by a Jap destroyer. I always enjoy
Repubs that have nothing positive to say about anybody but themselves and
their archaic philsophy. Can't understand why the nation is polarized. Let's blame Kennedy, LBJ or even Roosevelt and Truman, after all only Repubs like Watergate NIxon, Iran/Contra affair Reagan/Bush and no WMD Bush Jr. know it all. They are the ones that have made this country great!
It does, all 3 of them restored and rebuilt. As I understand it, from reading the history of the project and talking with the guys, when the hull was recovered it had been converted to diesels, but they located and replaced those with original Packard engines. I was able to walk through the engine compartment and they were like new
This video and the sign are from 2011, years before PT 305 was restored. I did place a footnote in the beginning of the video that with the pending launch of PT 305, it is no longer the only one.
PT 305 bills itself as "the world’s only fully restored combat-veteran PT boat in operation today," emphasis on "combat" as PT 658 did not see combat operations since it was finished too late in the war.
What an absolute work of dedication. To think that a wooden vessel would be restored 75 years after is quite amazing.
Also, I am very impressed with the image stabiliser within your camera.
Yes, it's raining... but an umbrella on deck? And how about the forward line handler just hand reeling the line and throwing it on the deck? Obviously not a real sailor! The midships line was coiled as it should be.
Why don't you go find yourself a deteriorated PT Boat, spend 15 to 20 years completely restoring it bearing hundred of thousands of dollars in expenses then take it out and show them how it is done. OH, and you can bear the fine for exceeding the allowable speed limit in that section of the river.
Well all this is fine and dandy,, but since I could not find one,, I built my own elco,, PT boat its out in,, estancia new mexico rotting away it weighs 12 tons53 foot long powered by a 653 Detroit diesel its # is the PT 901 and its on a trailer about a1/4 mile east of the new court houseon hi way 55 my name is mike Garrett I built it all by my self started in 2001 finished in 2003 was never allowed to put in the lake thanks to governor Richardson the[[ bastard]] drained elephant butte lake my email is [email protected] for pics
The 305 is is coming out of the Kushner Restoration Pavilion at the National World War II Museum in New Orleans very soon. From there, "Sudden Jerk" will begin her journey back to sea for the second time in 73 years. All of us on the 305 crew have nothing but admiration for the outstanding work done by the 658 volunteers.
Lew, Until such time as the 305 is floating, the claim of the "Only operational boat" is valid. The guys in New Orleans are trying to get their boat to be where we have been since 2004. I think the 658 boat deserves a little respect.
Looking at some of these comments I can see how our public education system has failed big time. I think they should teach history in Schools?. Does it have sails so if the engine stops working?,,,,sorry I had to ask ( :
Mr Jubbey, You are mixing up the two manufacturers. Elco has exhaust mufflers out the stern and Higgins (which this one is) has mufflers in their original position on the sides. The mufflers contain an internal butterfly to redirect it under water, but those have been removed to maximize the engine sounds. The engines are indeed 3 operating original 5M-2500 Packard V12 engines. They sound like that when they are idling at 700 rpm at the dockside after starting.
If memory serves me, after talking with them, it was converted to diesels after the war and made into more of a private yacht. But when the guys got it and began the restoration, they replaced the engines with restored Packards.
Visiting this magnificent boat was a 'goose bump' experience. The detail and accuracy with which these dedicated volunteers have restores this piece of history, is remarkable. Visit their website and read the history them view the video. You won't be disappointed. Better yet visit this awesome boat on your next trip to the west coast.
The PT boats were powered by Packard designed and built marine engines, not copies of Rolls Royce engines. They did not use the Merlin engine, which was an aircraft engine. The Merlin was a feat in itself as Packard had to take a hand-built engine and create the tooling to turn it into a machine-built engine.
Zac vaper WRONG !!!! It was not !!! The Liberty aircraft engine was an air cooled 1650 cu in disp engine !!! The M2500 was.....2500 Cu Inch disp and liquid cooled !!! Jesse Vincent of Packard drew on the design element from his A2500 aircraft engine for the M2500 !!! Where the hell do you people get all this BULLSHIT info ?????HUUUHHH??????
WRONG !!!! The M for Marine was a purpose designed marine engine !!! It never powered a plane !! !It was developed from Jesses Vincents experience with the A2500 but it was not the same engine !!! The M2500 never powered a plane !!!! Jesse Vincent was working on an aircraft version but it was shelved to concentrate on the Merlin !!! See the Book "Packard as an Aero engine Builder, by Robert J Neal it is discussed in that book !!! The M2500 weighed in at 2900# too heavy for aircraft use !!! It had some aircraft features, aluminum const DOHC 4 valve supercharged engine !!!!
so they dont take up steel which theres was a shortage of. that why they made wood parts on cars later in the 40s cuz much of it was made to weapons for the war they also made sinks of copper also because you cant make guns out of copper
+Roger Blackwell The crewmen were either at their stations or below decks...there was little traipsing around on the upper deck area unless they were in the central area. The only people topside were the Skipper, the Exec, two sailors manning the two 50 caliber machine guns, one manning the 20mm (if equipped) and two torpedomen on early war versions. Later war boats had additional 20 mm or heavier crew served weapons, depending on the mission to which they were assigned.
Lew waters.....WRONG !!! WRONG !!!! WRONG!!!!! Those M2500 PACKARD engines had NOTHING to do with the Merlin engine !!! Packard was delivering these engines to the US Navy 3 years BEFORE the Brits showed up on their BEGGING mission to get Packard to build the merlin. FYI Merlin is 1650 Cu In disp Packard is ....2500 !!!! DUUUHH!!!! Packard is 50% larger !!! Do the fucking research and QUIT spreading your BULLSHIT across You Tube !! !Look up the You Tube video "MEN BET THEIR LIVES ON THEM" the story of war time Packard involvement and learn !!!! Yes Packard did build BOTH engines but they were totally unrelated !!!!
Peter Bloink !!! WRONG !!! WRONG !!! WRONG !!!! The Packard M2500 PT Boat engine had NOTHING to do with the merlin engine !!! M2500 was duhh!! 2500 cu in displacement, merlin was but 1650 !!! How the hell could they be the same engine ????? HUUUHH???? Packard was delivering the M2500 to the US Navy and Brits 2 to 3 years BEFORE the Brits showed up to have Packard build the Merlin. First Packard merlin ran in Aug of 1941 and the navy had the M2500 in 1938 !!! Packard did build BOTH engines...14,000 of the M2500 and 55,325 Merlins of which the Brits got 37,137 of the Packard merlins !!! See the video here on you tube "Men bet their lives on them" and learn, a war time film on Packard !!! WHY assume because Packard built both engines they were the same ???? DUMB ASS !!!
Lew Waters WRONG !!! WRONG !!! WRONG !!!! These Packard M2500 engines had NOTHING to do with the Merlin engine !!! Packard was delivering these engines to the US Navy and the British 2 to 3 years BEFORE RR showed up at Packard to have Packard Build the Merlin !!! The clue is the Packards are 2500 cu in disp where the Merlin was ONLY 1650 cu in. The Packard , because it was a marine engine weighed in at 2900 # twice what the Merlin weighed !!! So how could these be Merlins ??? Packard did build BOTH engines but Packard ran the first Merlin in Aug of 1941 I would strongly suggest you look up here on You Tube the video "Men bet their lives on them " it explains the engines Packard built !!! It is really stupid of you to "assume" the engines were the same without doing the research !!! Also Google Packard PT boat engine and learn !!!!
Strangely enough, the actual WW2 PT73 was a 78 foot Higgins Boat just like this PT658 and was assigned to Squadron (RON) 13 which served up in the Aleutian Islands and later in the Pacific. It was present during the Phillipine and Borneo campaigns. The McHales Navy PT73 which you are referring to was actually a 63 foot Vosper Design never used by the USN.
+planetcheck What I read from multiple sources it was a Vosper Motor Torpedo Boat, which was made in the US from a British design, actually intended for the Russians! The war ended, so it did not see service, it was eventually used by Howard Hughes as an emergency boat in the Long Beach Harbor around the days of the Spruce Goose. There were a few other owners, before it was used in McHales Navy. They added fake machine guns and other items, but you can see from the Howard Hughes picture of the boat (just google it) the cabin looks the same. The interiors of the ship which occasionally were shown were done in studio. Eventually it went back to private ownership, and then sadly got pushed onto the beach near Santa Barbara during a storm and was wrecked.
+planetcheck : it never was a PT boat, but were actually ArmyAirForce sea rescue boats that where rebuilt by Universal Studios from the main deck up to resemble a true PT boat. sorry to deflate your enthusiasm.
Why do you need more power for different wars? If 1650 horsepower was good enough for WW11 era fighting, what bigger behemoths do we have for a war now? Weren't there still battleships to take down in WWII
Not the only operational PT boat, there is a fully operational one in Victoria that is privately owned. Has its three original merlin engines also. I have seen it in Sydney harbour twice over the years. Sydney is around 1000 kilometres from where it is usually docked which shows the owners not afraid to use it.
IF...It truely has the Merlin engines it is NOT a US Navy PT Boat !!! NONE used the Merlin engine !!!US PT Boats used the Packard designed and built M2500 engine that has NOTHING to do with a Merlin !!! M2500 was in production over two years BEFORE RR Showed up at Packard to have Packard build the Merlin !! Packard built both engines, 14,000 M2500 and 55,325 V1650 Merlins !!! Do you not think more that a Limey Brit could design and build a V12 engine ???? Arrogant bastards !!!
+Wilkotheminer People mistakenly think those PT engines were RR Merlins, but they weren't. The PT engines were 4M-2500 Packard engines, they had 2500 cid. The RR Merlin engine had 1650 CID. Also, the PT engines weighed 3000lbs apiece, they would have been way to big and heavy for a WWII era fighter plane. Most WWII fighters total weight was under 10,000lbs. The P51 Mustang's empty weight was only around 7600lbs and it's fully loaded weight was only 9200lbs.
+wanmohd danial If you keep looking, there is a video on here where they have a cutaway of the torpedo, the model that Jay mentioned. They did literally roll off! It was weird, it had a little motor that you turned on, there was an explosive up front, you got the propeller spinning and it went off the side with a lever. It was really cool for what it was. I think it would be awesome to have one without the explosive, have an RC controller and drive it around a lake!
If you mean operational by having original equipment on it maybe, but there a some PT boats built during the war being operated by private owners, there is one that is down in Sale, Victoria, Australia. I have hear it often shares it;s time between the ports of Sale Bairnsdale and I was told it spends part of the year up in the top end of Australia at Darwin, Northern Territory, Aust. He apparently has a fake gun up on the front of it, it doesn't have any tubes or other armament and I'm sure it wouldn't have original engines, but it is a WW2 PT boat and it is in use as a private boat, Its painted a grey colour and the number on the side is PT 060. I tried to find out about the boat but have looked to deep yet, I have some photos and I will put them up on Flickr later on.
100 octane fuel as i recall basically aircraft gas and shed run through abot a hundred gallons in a few hours. 6-8 55 gallon drums on them or the metal square paint cans for reserve.from footage in the georgia islands south pacific . Crazy expensive but still kick ass.
During WW 2 Allies (US sourced) avgas was way above 100 octane at times as high as 150 octane but almost always at or above 110 octane. That was one of the reasons the Allies could run boost levels through the roof compared to the ME 109 etc of the German planes that often ran on 90 octane. I am not sure the exact octane that the PT boats used but I would guess it was higher than 100 just for simplicity. Add in the fact that the Allies (mostly Britain) controlled the world's supply of nickle and the Allied engines had far superior steel in critical components compared to the German aviation engines. Both the Germans and the Allies used various injection systems using water, or Nitrous Oxide and that allowed higher levels of boost for short (5 min) durations of higher hp in aviation applications before having to back off for a minute or two. I think the Packard marine engine was supercharged but did not need multi-staged superchargers being run at sea level. I do not believe any PT boats utilized a water injector or similar boost enhancing feature.
Very nice :) Highly interesting boats the PT. Gotta love em. Anyone interested in these kind of boats might also wanna watch these two: T26 and T56. The latter was built in the 50s but T26 in 1942. Both are since long not in service ofc. Still fast though ;)
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